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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #15 on: 16. February 2018, 16:04:21 »

Replaced the MCU.
Nothing to do: for a little while low absorption then after a few second the currente rise up to 500mA and there ia short circuit between UI_3V_MCU and GND.
Removed components under  UI_3V_MCU like IC1, IC12, IC5, IC7 and the short is still present.
Removed MCU the short is gone.
Resoldered the MCU, no short for a few seconds then again 500mA of absorption.
I'm not luky with MCU?
I'm sure there are non solder joint between pins of the MCU and I don't want to desolder the MCU for the third time. The risk is that same pads go away and so, after, the entire board will be a piece of junk...
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #16 on: 16. February 2018, 17:11:40 »

that's not good!
please show us a (high resolution) picture from your board.
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #17 on: 19. February 2018, 08:27:33 »

Additional information:

if LCD is plugged ui board can draw 460mA and STM is *not dead* - but possibly option bytes are scrambled and STM cannot be reached via dfu.

The only possibility to check if STM is still alive is to use STLINK. Do you have it?

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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #18 on: 19. February 2018, 08:50:04 »

Here are some infos regarding ST-Link:
https://www.amateurfunk-sulingen.de/forum/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=577;start=315
Translator is your friend here. Its pretty easy and straightforward.
I can also encourage you to buy such a cheap link plug which you'll find on Amazon or eBay:
https://www.ebay.de/itm/ST-Link-V2-STM8-STM32-USB-Programmer-3-3V-5V-SWD-212-/221884211496?hash=item33a9546128:g:WeEAAOSwyvBV9Tar
Very often the MCU is still alive but did not boot due to crashed register settings.
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #19 on: 23. February 2018, 15:55:31 »

Update of 23/02/2018
Soldered a new MCU and tested the resistance between UI_3v_MCU and ground: about 1.3 Kohm (Ok, Before was only about 10 ohm)
Note: any active and passive components between UI_3v_MCU and ground was previously removed: only the MCU.
Now step by step I will re-put in place the components removed and every step I'll check the resistance.
Just a few steps a day: I don't want to make another roast-MCU!
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #20 on: 24. February 2018, 07:49:01 »

The first thing I would test is if any short-circuits are between MCU pins which are side by side. You can take such very precise "peaks" like they are used at dentists. Connect them to a DVM in "short circuit test mode" and test all pins for shorts to their neigbours.

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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #21 on: 24. February 2018, 13:35:28 »

Quote from: DF8OE on 24. February 2018, 07:49:01
The first thing I would test is if any short-circuits are between MCU pins which are side by side. You can take such very precise "peaks" like they are used at dentists. Connect them to a DVM in "short circuit test mode" and test all pins for shorts to their neigbours.

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Thank you for this suggestion: before giving current I'll surely do also this test!
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #22 on: 24. February 2018, 13:54:10 »

I have got many mcHFs in the past for repair. If MCU was killed, the main reason was short circuits directly at the pins of MCU. Second reason was wrong wiring to 30p header to rf PCB (> 3V on a pin that goes directly to GPIO).

Good luck - this time it will work!

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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #23 on: 28. February 2018, 17:58:07 »

"Dentist test" done and passed ok.
Now ahead step by step.
A little step a time.
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #24 on: 03. March 2018, 10:53:46 »

Ok!
Finally I have a working MCU.
It is recognized by the pc and I can upload bootloader and firmware, but...
Removed jumper on P6, removed the cable on DFU port, given +5V, I can only see a white screen.
After a few seconds the screen light became not stable, but if  I press and keep depressed  the power on/off  button the white screen become stable, so I believe it is a software problem and not an hardware problem.
It's time to buy an ST-LINK?
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #25 on: 03. March 2018, 10:59:01 »

I don't think it is a firmware problem - I think it is a hardware problem.

Do you have built LCD PCB by yourself or do you get a populated PCB?

BTW:
Buying a ST-Link is nearly mandatory if you want to participate the latest bleeding edge tries on OVI40. It is cheap and **very useful**

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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #26 on: 03. March 2018, 11:13:05 »

Hi Andreas!
Thank you for your prompt answer.
You sent me a populated LCD after the first expedition went to Portugal, do you remember?
Have I to check something in particular on the LCD board?
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #27 on: 03. March 2018, 11:33:29 »

Or buy a simple, standard "of the shelf" 3,2" TFT LCD.
https://www.hotmcu.com/32-touch-screen-tft-lcd-module-ili9325-p-127.html?cPath=6_16&zenid=9t7el5fmveqp7onhsvb9bb2rv7
or
https://www.waveshare.com/3.2inch-320x240-Touch-LCD-C.htm
No need for any soldering just plug and play and ideal for testing the UI board to make sure basic functionality.
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #28 on: 03. March 2018, 15:00:07 »

Disassembled LCD, checked all solder joint, cleaned accurately all the fluxant.
Now the white screen is stable, the current absorption is about 70mA constant, but only white screen.
No particular hot spot: checked with a thermal camera: max temperature about 25° C on the MCU and on the 3.3V regulator

What can I do now?
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Re:CPU hot and no connection to PC
« Reply #29 on: 03. March 2018, 15:32:08 »

Ich hatte bei 2 neugebauten ui-Boards (V.04 und V.06) ein ähnliches Problem. Nach dem Flashen mit JP6 und dfuSe schien nach der Anzeige von dfuSe alles ok zu sein, aber nach dem Einschalten der Boards war der Bildschirm auch nur weiß. Abhilfe brachte ein 2. Flashen des Bootloaders, danach lief alles prima!
Starte mal einen 2. Versuch !
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