Diskussions- und Newsboard des DARC-Ortsverbandes I40
allgemeine Kategorie => UHSDR Firmware => Message started by: DL8EBD on 15. April 2020, 05:17:36

Title: display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 15. April 2020, 05:17:36

Falls einige nicht so oft ins github schauen:
in der gestern erschienenen V2.11.81 gibt es eine interessante Erweiterung:

Es können nun Frequenzen bis 99 GHz angezeigt werden.
Der Transverter Offset kann zudem für den Sender separat eingestellt werden (bis zu 20 GHz Offset zum Empfänger)

Das Sub-Frequenz-Display zeigt nun stets die real erzeugte Sende/Empfangs Frequenz vom Transceiver an.

Ideal für QO100 Anwendungen!
Dankeschön an Danilo und dem Entwickler Team

Firmware-Download:
https://df8oe.github.io/UHSDR/ (https://df8oe.github.io/UHSDR/)

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: Michael_K on 15. April 2020, 08:49:19

Danke Thomas,
kommt mir sehr zu passe. Für die Nutzung des TRV von Artur
gesunde vy 73 aus Erfurt
Michael_K

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP3OSJ on 15. April 2020, 09:56:19

Hi

It is now fully integrated with TRV on QO 100.
All day, Danilo

73
Artur

Title: [gelöst] Transverter-Offset einstellen: größere Schrittweite?
Post by: DL8EBD on 16. April 2020, 05:24:19

Danilo, gibt es einen Trick größere GHz Offsets einzustellen ohne den Encoder zu überlasten?
....größte Schrittweite pro Klick sind ja nur 100kHz.

Ich fürchte aber dass ich was falsch mache :-\

EDIT:
ja....das Problem sitzt vor dem TRX ::) ::)
uff..
Danilo hat es mir erklärt.... ist der Xverter Betrieb aktiv, kann man bis 10MHz Schrittweite schalten (war schon immer so)
und ab 1000 MHz dann zusätzlich Faktor 1000 => 10MHz => 10GHz....

Mein Fehler war also bei nicht aktivem Transverterbetrieb den Offset zu verstellen.
Ich hätte es eigentlich wissen müssen da ich mich vor längerer Zeit ja mal genau damit beschäftigte, sprich Frequenzen > 1GHz
darzustellen.

Danke Danilo!
Ich gucke nachher mal ins Wiki ob das "eigentlich" selbsterklärend ist oder ob man den Sachverhalt vielleicht verständlicher rüberbringen kann ;)

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP3OSJ on 16. April 2020, 11:49:02

Hi Thomas

This can be set from the keyboard.
Press LCD wherever there is frequency
Then "Frequerncy Set"

73
Artur

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP9BSL on 16. April 2020, 12:01:39

Quote from: SP3OSJ on 16. April 2020, 11:49:02
This can be set from the keyboard.


Not sure about this, the virtual keyboard frequency variable is only 32bit (the value must be <2^32, so below the ~4GHz) :https://github.com/df8oe/UHSDR/blob/4ecbff8b626662af6c7300e92830199ee001ab5b/mchf-eclipse/drivers/ui/ui_vkeybrd.c#L545 (https://github.com/df8oe/UHSDR/blob/4ecbff8b626662af6c7300e92830199ee001ab5b/mchf-eclipse/drivers/ui/ui_vkeybrd.c#L545)

although may be wrong, not have here the rig to check this.

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 16. April 2020, 12:08:05

Artur, Sławek,

I mean actually the setting of the Transverter Offset in the menu, not the absolute frequency during normal operation





Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 16. April 2020, 18:50:36

Artur, Sławek is right!
you can't use such large numbers with direct frequency input.
The highest frequency is currently 2^31 = 2.147.483.648 Hz

@Sławek
I have noticed that artefacts are created when entering a frequency - should I open an issue for it?
Firmware 2.11.81
TRX SParrow H7(480MHz)


Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DB4PLE on 16. April 2020, 20:26:14

Hi,

I did not check yet in the code, but the frequency entered using the touch screen is almost 100% sure the "real" TRX frequency, i.e. the frequency without the offset. So there is no immediate need to fix this as long as we keep it this way.

Otherwise we would have to teach the touchscreen input the difference between transverter and non-transverter operation.

73
Danilo


Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 17. April 2020, 04:45:15

Vorschlag an die Software Entwickler:

Wenn theoretisch nichts mehr an der UHSDR zu tun ist könnte man die Eingabe des TRV Offset auf diese Art realisieren bzw. zur bestehenden Frequenzeingabe per Touch ergänzen ;)

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP9BSL on 17. April 2020, 06:07:29

Quote from: DL8EBD on 16. April 2020, 18:50:36
@Sławek
I have noticed that artifacts are created when entering a frequency - should I open an issue for it?


Hi Thomas,
yes, you may create the issue regarding artifacts. I'm deep in hardware now, no time to fix this in firmware. As Danilo said not urgent need to fix the transverter mode. The artifacts are caused by not proper dot size handling, will fix this imediately when go back to the firmware. There will be a lot changes in this area regarding my hardware and new functionalities of virtual keypads - my private lib has evolved since the one implemented in our UHSDR...

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: OE1FHB on 17. April 2020, 06:31:12

Guten Morgen Thomas !
Suche krampfhaft im Wiki Anleitung zum aktivieren des zusatz
Touchpanels zur Frequenzeinstellung .
Bin aber nicht fündig geworden .
Bitte könntest du Hinweis geben wie man das aktiviert .
Danke im voraus.

vy 73 OE1FHB
Friedrich

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DF8OE on 17. April 2020, 06:35:11

Einfach auf die Frequenzanzeige tippen und dann "Frequency Set" wählen... War intuitiv. Gleich der erste Versuch führte zum Erfolg ;D

vy 73
Andreas

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 17. April 2020, 06:38:25

Hallo Friedrich,
langer touch auf die Hauptfrequenzanzeige ;)

Tipp:
Möchtest Du eine Frequenz eingeben die nicht mehr im aktuellen Band ist, zusätzlich die Touchfläche "BAND change" betätigen.

Beispiel:
Aktuelle QRG: 3.550.000 Hz
Wunsch QRG: 7.100.000 Hz
geht nur wenn BAND change aktiv ist, sonst kommt "Out of range"

Ohne Band change kannst Du nur innerhalb vom Band bleiben, also
z.B. von 3.550.000 Hz auf 3.600.000 Hz

das habe ich durch probieren herausgefunden.
Habe keine Ahnung ob es noch weitere Möglichkeiten gibt..... ;)

EDIT:
Andreas war die Winzigkeit von 3 Minuten schneller..... :D :D

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: OE1FHB on 17. April 2020, 06:40:54

Danke für die promte Antwort , aber bei mir öffnet das nur
ein Touchfeld zur Band Auswahl .
FW.:2.11.81
BL.:5.0.3

#Vy73 OE1FHB
Friedrich

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 17. April 2020, 06:43:06

......und dann "Frequency Set" wählen...

das hatte ich offensichtlich übersprungen - habe mein Gerät gerade nicht zur Hand

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP9BSL on 17. April 2020, 06:45:06

Friedrich,
this is only for 3.5" or more display (480x320), there is no possibility to show the keypad on usual mcHF display - not enough space for graphics.

My fault- not proper info for 480x320 display in wiki. I must add the screenshoot feature first to make easier the wiki expanding.

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: OE1FHB on 17. April 2020, 06:49:15

Danke Slawek , das ist das Problem !

Vy73 OE1FHB
Friedrich

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 17. April 2020, 06:53:20

Danke Sławek

sorry Friedrich, das habe ich nicht gewusst da ich ausschließlich mit dem 480x320 Pixel TFT arbeite.....

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP9BSL on 17. April 2020, 06:56:31

Thomas, in fact I have the 3.5" display in both mcHF and OV I40 UI too, almost forgot abut the initial mcHF display :)

Anyway, the short info is in this thread (7th answer):

https://www.amateurfunk-sulingen.de/forum/index.php?board=19;action=display;threadid=1072 (https://www.amateurfunk-sulingen.de/forum/index.php?board=19;action=display;threadid=1072)

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DF8OE on 17. April 2020, 07:07:51

So here. A soon as the 3.5" appears I have modified all my mcHF and OVI40 for usage of the higher resolution LCDs. If I get a device for repair which has the 320x240 I feel like beaming in the stone age ;D... But for all the owners of a clone which has poor housing so that you cannot add bigger LCD we should publish a comparison of "what does not work with small LCD". E.g. "full size WF / scope" for example. And I think no developer is working on new features for the small LCD - everything that will be added is for higher resolutions...

vy 73
Andreas

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DL8EBD on 17. April 2020, 07:44:24

what was the mcHF with 2.8" display again? ;)

but....at Citizen Band times, a two-digit 7-segment display was enough ;D ;D

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: SP9BSL on 17. April 2020, 08:29:13

yes, for the current point of view on level of development stage the 320x240 display looks like a little "oldschool" type, but when I recall the first look at the project Chris shown us, I was very enthusiastic and thought this will be enough, this was a good job by Chris&co over 7 years ago, plenty clones still selling today. But... if someone stays at certain stage he really steps back. We are moving forward with development of UHSDR sometimes faster, sometimes slower but still having a lot of ideas. I hope the old display will not make the life harder too much for developers like the 8086 was a kind of obstruction for later chips from Intel... So, if one may move to the bigger screen in mcHF, well... it is highly recommended!

Title: Re:display frequencies up to 99 GHz
Post by: DB4PLE on 17. April 2020, 11:15:04

Hi,

I think, not offering some capabilities on a too small screen is not a big issue technically, keeping track of different capabilities or ways of working in documentation and communication is the bigger issue here.

For the specific discussion point, I think it would be doable to offer the frequency input also on the smaller display. The amount of requests we get for this capability is low (read zero so far). So unless someone does it or huge demand sparks, we just should document the difference (which is a good point for moving to a larger display if possible.

73
Danilo



Diskussions- und Newsboard des DARC-Ortsverbandes I40 | Powered by YaBB SE
© 2001-2003, YaBB SE Dev Team. All Rights Reserved.