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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #15 on: 06. May 2018, 13:42:29 »

What do you think about usage of WSJTX?

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #16 on: 06. May 2018, 16:41:39 »

LTDX is much better. It has better sensitivity, better functionality.

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #17 on: 06. May 2018, 16:51:43 »

...but WSJTX works without any issue...

First step should be to test if WSJTX does work without this issue or not. If the issue persists problem is not related to application and we can investigate further. If problem vanishs it is located in application (not in Linux, Pulse Audio or anything else). Then you can make an issue reort to JTDX programmers.

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I have tried JTDX. First issue was that there is no package for Linux 64 bit release version ("404" error).
Second issue was: I downloaded 64 bit version of evaluation version and it cannot install on my 64 bit system because of it depends on a handful of i386 versions of other packages (???!!!???)

Code:

root@wst-andreas:/test # dpkg -i /home/andreas/Downloads/jtdx_18.1.0_step84_amd64.deb
Vormals nicht ausgewähltes Paket jtdx:i386 wird gewählt.
(Lese Datenbank ... 761635 Dateien und Verzeichnisse sind derzeit installiert.)
Vorbereitung zum Entpacken von .../jtdx_18.1.0_step84_amd64.deb ...
Entpacken von jtdx:i386 (18.1.0-step84) ...
dpkg: Abhängigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von jtdx:i386:
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libfftw3-single3.
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libgfortran3 (>= 4.6).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libgomp1 (>= 4.9).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5core5a (>= 5.5.0).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5gui5 (>= 5.2.0) | libqt5gui5-gles (>= 5.2.0).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5multimedia5 (>= 5.2.0).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5network5 (>= 5.0.2).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5serialport5 (>= 5.1.0).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.2.0).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libgfortran3 (>= 4.8.2).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5serialport5 (>= 5.2).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5multimedia5-plugins (>= 5.2).
jtdx:i386 hängt ab von libqt5widgets5 (>= 5.2).

dpkg: Fehler beim Bearbeiten des Paketes jtdx:i386 (--install):
Abhängigkeitsprobleme - verbleibt unkonfiguriert
Trigger für man-db (2.8.3-2) werden verarbeitet ...
Fehler traten auf beim Bearbeiten von:
jtdx:i386

Third issue was: It is written that it is a forked WSJTX (WSJTX is GNU GPLv3) but a few lines later it is written that it is "© 2016-2017 by Igor Chernikov, UA3DJY and Arvo Järve ES1JA" - that is a inconsitency. If it is forked it cannot legally be copyrighted like this. Additionally I do not find a repository where I can take a look at the sources. I do not hope it is a fork whichs sources now are hidden...

As I uninstalled the package I got strange error messages. I dug into the package and recognized that the "amd64 package" is in truth an "i386" package and it installs binaries to /usr/local/bin instead of "usr/bin". Very, very strange. I kicked it off my PC.

Again I remembered that an early version of WSJTX does have the issue you reported (I think it was 1.6.x). Can it be that the sources of JTDX are based on this faulty WSJTX base???? Hmmmmm.......

Sorry. Actually I do not want to use this.

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #18 on: 06. May 2018, 23:44:58 »

I'm using Linux Mint 18.3 64 bit. In my system JTDX program was install without any problem, WSJT too. WSJT don't work via USB too, see picture. That is why I think that problem is not in the program JTDX. But I'm not so familiar with Linux yet to solve this problem. But in Windows 10 both program are working good.

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #19 on: 07. May 2018, 07:00:28 »

Linux Mint "with number" is based on Ubuntu. I am using Siduction and LMDE (Linux Mint Debian Edition). Both are based on Debian, both are working flawlessly with newest WSJTX. If you do have problems with WSJTX, too it may be due to your soundsystem. That is very strange - you cannot fix samplerate to a wrong value by accident! Please start application via terminal and look at the error messages which are thown there. Error messages on terminal are much better than error boxes of GUI.

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« Reply #20 on: 07. May 2018, 10:32:26 »

Maybe this helps ?! WSJT audio settings on Raspian and Debian:
https://www.amateurfunk-sulingen.de/forum/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=544

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #21 on: 08. May 2018, 01:43:04 »

Thank you for help. I have try , but no changes. Please send me your daemon.conf file. I compare it with my daemon.conf May be find something.
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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #22 on: 10. May 2018, 01:57:41 »

I have adjusted USB sound for transmit (from PC to mcHF via USB), but PC can not read sound via USB from mcHF. I determine that problem with sound is im my system. Could you give me parameters of USB sound in mcHF sound card. Wich audio codec should be installed in Linux system for catch sound from transceiver. I try to fix out the problem.

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #23 on: 10. May 2018, 07:07:54 »

I must not change or install anything on the following systems:

Debian 9 stretch 64bit
LMDE2 (Betsy) 64bit
Siduction 64bit
Antergos 64bit

Everything worked out-of-the-box. Sound is in "48KHz".

No need for a special codec, and samplerate is correctly submitted via USB descriptors.

There is no need for pulse audio or any other mixer. You can set the sound card directly in the applications. Some applications (like WSJTX 1.6.x) are buggy and do not accept USB descriptors - so same error messages as you wrote. But if you take the newest debs from the websites (or build the applications by yourself) everything works fine.

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« Reply #24 on: 10. May 2018, 09:53:08 »

Yepp, same here.
Everything out of the box. Debian as well as Rasbian. Just a few clicks in the audio settings to select the right interfaces and thats it.

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« Reply #25 on: 10. May 2018, 10:33:37 »

Hi,

since I upgraded to Ubuntu 17.10 I was not able to get WSJTX to work correctly, same issue as VE3LL. All tricks I tried did not work. Older WSJTX, new WSJTX, ... could not get it to work. Worked flawlessy just before upgrade (with Ubuntu 16.04, 17.04) on same machine.
TRX has no problems on Windows or with Raspberry Pi. FLDIGI works AFAIR.

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #26 on: 10. May 2018, 10:35:42 »

Please help me to get it for testing.

I visit the website and navigate to JTDX downloads / General releases / Linux Version 64 bit - and get a "404 error".

OK. So I navigate to "Evaluation Versions only" / Linux version 64 bit - and get a debian package which is named "amd64". But it contains only i386 version which needs a lot of additional 32 bit stuff which I do not want to have on my 64 bit machine. It is not recommended to install 32 bit versions on 64 bit machines - it is risky that you are missing some libs (tools which are not in the dependencies (app will start but not work properly).

Where can I get a 64 bit version of JTDX?? And - very important question: where can I find sources of JTDX - they **MUST** be accessible because the base "WSJTX" is Gnu-GPLv3!

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« Reply #27 on: 10. May 2018, 12:36:06 »

Maybe it is related to Ubuntu and its strange "Canoncal way of moving". I left Ubuntu about 10 years ago and now I am happy about my decision. Canonical does have joint venture with Microsoft... I have dreams what this can mean ($$$...) and what is moving on the next time in Ubuntu...

Canonical has done many "lonely" moves in its distributions the last years. It is ignoring community and the orientation of the base Debian. Most impacts where graphic drivers and integration, Canonicals "own desktop" and maybe now its impacting audio chain. Don't know that. And I do not want to setup a machine using Ubuntu to investigate.

But actually I cannot access any JTDX 64 bit version package nor the sources to build it by myself.

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« Reply #28 on: 10. May 2018, 13:08:02 »

Hi,

I think it is a combination of issues. Today I upgraded to Ubuntu 18.04 and it now works again (sort of). I can again transmit and also receive. However, I receive only "silence". When I switch to Digial IQ I can see that some sound is send out but also very low volume. And external volume control does not work at all in Ubuntu 18.04.

All of this is different from Ubuntu 17.10 where I got error messages when I tried to start WSJTX. Now I just don't get any sound data. This problem may be an interaction problem between Linux USB sound driver and our UHSDR sound driver code. As with some other issues, maybe Linux kernel has a changed handling, more standard compliant handling in this area and we are not so compliant. Will look into this. However, what the problem on 17.10 was I have no clue.

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Re:UI-Board und Linux
« Reply #29 on: 10. May 2018, 14:19:52 »

It cannot be Linux kernel issue at all. I am using Linux kernels 4.15 and 4.16 on all my machines.

But - as I already stated - Ubuntu (Canonical) Kernels are not standard kernels! Canonical added many "homebrew" and instable kernel modules in the past. This modules never ahve reached "official" kernels which are used by most distributions.

Canonical wanted to press their "Unity" desktop in the market and dreamt of an "Ubuntu phone" which runs Unity, too. So they added many inofficial drivers (modules) to their kernels. Most of them are not working, impact othe functions, slow down kernel by eating horse power without doing anything (useful).

I am nearly sure if you debug on command line you can fix it. But Ubuntu is moving away from the Linux community and that is the reason I don't want to spend time there.

Is there a possibility to take kernels from external sources (ppa's) that are much cleaner?

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